• realitista@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    I’m kind of open-worlded out TBH. I still enjoy a corridor shooter with some nice graphics and good plot line.

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    4 days ago

    I’m assuming this is Levine lamenting that Bioshock wasn’t a good ImSim, because it was a corridor without player agency. Thief and System Shock (Levine worked on Thief: The Dark Project and System Shock 2 before making Bioshock) are corridors, but you have freedom in how you navigate them. Bioshock you really don’t.

    I think this article, and the comments I’m seeing, are interpreting this to mean he wants an open world (which may be the case, idk), but I think he means it lacked freedom of choice. It tied itself to the Shock legacy, but it lacked the freedom of the Shock games.

    I suspect this doesn’t mean Judas is going to be an open world game filled with fluff. I suspect it means it’ll be closer to in ImSim. Prey is the best modern ImSim probably, despite selling poorly, and it’s a space station made of corridors. You have a lot of freedom to navigate it under your own control though. There’s a lot of ways to get to different areas and to get around hazards. Hopefully Judas will be like this as well.

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    4 days ago

    Nobody wants an open world BioShock game as a service… We don’t, do we?

  • TedZanzibar@feddit.uk
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    5 days ago

    I like the idea of open worlds much more than I like the reality. With a full time job, kids, and a completionist mindset I just don’t have the time or mental stamina to spend 100+ hours doing side quests and revealing every inch of the map. Not to mention reading all of that dialog and lore.

    Give me a corridor with a tight, focused story over a sprawling open world any day of the week. Coincidentally Bioshock was awesome.

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      4 days ago

      Everyone tends to disagree with me but I think Breath of the Wild was the worst thing to happen to Zelda for this reason. I love most other Zelda games but I couldn’t bother finishing BotW and didn’t even try the newer one.

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      4 days ago

      Omg yes. It was not just a corridor. It was a send up of every game corridor game that I had played to that point. Taking a design limitation and making it a compelling plot twist was exactly what made bioshock awesome. One of my top 5 gaming moments of all time.

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    5 days ago

    The corridor was only physical. Bioshock’s appeal was not where the player could go, but how the player overcomes the obstacles along the way.

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      4 days ago

      Something a lot of games forget. Customization and personalization is more of a dress up sim anymore, strategy is all ‘the meta’ and build paths and efficient strategies. I miss OG Deus Ex where I dunno what I’m doing but suddenly I found a vent and now I’m hacking a turret to kill the robot that beats my ass. Didn’t know any of that was possible five minutes before.

      Games are all predictable, the systems are the same and the same engines/obsession with graphics make a lot of games play the same. The Witcher, Last of Us, Fallen Order/Survivor and Hogwarts Legacy they all feel the same in body language, controls, interactions, it’s stale.

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        4 days ago

        Might I suggest playing some modern CRPGs? Rogue trader and Wasteland 3 have a good bit of that, though im pretty sure everyone ends up turning Abelard into an Angron tier melee combatant in Rogue Trader.

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        4 days ago

        I hear you, but real quick for any developers reading this, do NOT take this to mean you should completely remap the controller so absolutely no muscle memory from every other game carries over.

        And give me a goddamn jump button.